There are people you could talk to all day and there are people you can’t get away from quick enough.
I think a friend in both scenarios is time.
To amplify the conversations you cherish don’t schedule anything after the meeting.
The absence of time pressure will allow you to relax, it will provide room for spontaneity, and it lets the conversation stretch out and explore many interesting tangents organically.
If picking a restaurant ideally choose one that doesn’t get busy, so the staff let you sit there for hours.
Conversely to avoid getting stuck in the conversations you dread best to have another appointment lined up for an exit strategy.
